Jol and Levy meet tomorrow
Martin Jol and Tottneham Hotspur chairman Daniel "Two Bob" Levy meet tomorrow for showdown talks according to almost anyone who has ever claimed to be an ITK on FTL and COYS. At the meeting it is going to be made clear that Jol has lost the boards support hoping Jol will resign, thus reducing the compensation fee Jol would be entitled to if he was sacked.
It appears that Levy doesn't want to sack him as it would cost him some cash and would be a PR disaster. If Jol refuses to walk, which I hope he does, it will be interesting to see if Levy does fire him.
Ramos of Sevilla apparently is ready to come and if Levy does do away with the most successful league manager for 20 years I hope he is in place. Another fuck up along the lines of the Hoddle sacking would rip the heart out of the club and other names banded around like Harry Redknapp just doesn't bare thinking about.
The way Jol has been treated is clearly a disgraceful knife in the back job from the Spurs board with lies being leaked to the press. The latest piece of garbage out there is that he hates Berbatov - utter nonsense but part of the smear campaign by our dirty board. I never liked Paul Kemsley on the apprentice - came across as a complete tosser on the show and appears to be one in real life.
Levy Out.
COYS!
posted by Paxton Road at 2:43 PM
138 Comments:
Fans need to show Jol our backing. Any ideas? Protest tomorrow? The treatment of BMJ is utterly disgraceful
3:04 PM, August 21, 2007
im am utterly disgusted by this whole thing about jol... if he is sacked i will be on the brink of cutting on tyes with spurs..
3:04 PM, August 21, 2007
this is heartbreaking stuff - if even a percentage of these newspaper articles is true then i am truely saddened and appauled at the behaviour of the spurs board. Without the fans this club has nothing, and surely even the most adamant of fans who are wanting to get rid of Jol would not have wished this treatment upon him.
3:05 PM, August 21, 2007
im shocked and devasted by the news that jol may be getting sacked! im not happy at all!
personally i feel us spurs fans need to unite together and protest against the board for treating Martin like this! its ridiculous and he doesn't deserve any of this. im gutted for him but i do also feel that its not to late to make our voice heard to the board and everyone in the county!
i say we get down to white hart lane in massive numbers 2moro when this meeting is taking place and show Martin how much we want him to stay!!
COYS!
3:05 PM, August 21, 2007
100% agree, we're a shambles. we finally get a strong squad, a bit of character and the crowd continue to show support and then we do something like this! jokers. Martin Jols having a party!!
3:05 PM, August 21, 2007
couldnt agree more andy...
3:06 PM, August 21, 2007
Jol out!!!! Limited tactical abilty.
3:06 PM, August 21, 2007
i agree with andy and brad!
protest against the board.....a joke is what they are!
lets stop this from happening! "I LOVE MARTTTTTINNNNNNNNNN JOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!"
3:09 PM, August 21, 2007
Jol out!Jol out!Jol out!Jol out!Jol out!Jol out!Jol out!
3:09 PM, August 21, 2007
the tottenham fans who want jol out are all a bunch of muppets... with no patience.. why arent man utd fans n board going crazy over manutds poor start to the season with all the money they have spent...
3:10 PM, August 21, 2007
Agreed, we need to demonstrate to the Board our complete support for MJ. In the end it won't change a thing, they will sack him, and we will carry on being regarded as turnstile fodder by the Board. However, for the sake of our integrity we need to demonstrate outr thanks and support to MJ for the work he has done in saving us from being the complete laughing stock we were when he arrived. Sadly the Board appear more comfortable with that state of affairs than the quality and consistency that MJ has given us.
3:10 PM, August 21, 2007
Get rid of a Manager who has helped improve the fortunes of the club in every season he has been there. Why on earth would you do that and why do we have this ability to shoot ourselves in the foot all the time. Jol for one more year I say.
3:11 PM, August 21, 2007
all done fellas, Jol's packing up his kit bag, Ramos has booked into the tottenham language school for an intensive english course and riquelme has decided to have home schooling in his new essex pad. see ya martin, enjoy the dutch national job.
3:11 PM, August 21, 2007
grow up. the truth of it is levy wants success now. jol is a great guy and has brought us a long way. i'd love to be proved wrong, but let's be honest his tactics, team selections and subs have left us massively wanting on numerous occaisions. i just don't see him as being in the same league as the top 4 managers. if we want to crack the top 4 it'll take a proven winner - Ramos certainly is that. levy is, i believe trying to what's best for the club to achieve success.
3:12 PM, August 21, 2007
i wish you would stop reading that crap them ITK on coys and FTL wright total bull shit hardly anything they say comes true
personnaly hope BJ stayes 5th in 2 seassons is fantastic
3:12 PM, August 21, 2007
I agree, this whole things stinks Jol is the man the fans want. He's brought us stability and two very good seasons of football compared to a lifetime of sh!te (I'm 26 so bar a few highlights that's exactly what it's been)
My membership card goes back to the Lane in 2 pieces if they do this. It's a disgrace.
3:13 PM, August 21, 2007
don't be fooled by martin's sweet face and incisive sense of humour, he's a stubborn prima donna. we're better without him, he wants the dutch manager's job 100 times more than he wants the spurs job
3:15 PM, August 21, 2007
For those who want to pass your views onto to Mr. Levy, here is his email address:
daniel.levy@tottenhamhotspur.com
I would urge all supporters of Jol to send an email. Keep it polite, but let him know what you think.
3:15 PM, August 21, 2007
Jol your the main man....
Come on you Spurs!!!!
3:15 PM, August 21, 2007
Sign the petition.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/keep-martin-jol
3:16 PM, August 21, 2007
IM UTTERLY GUTTED ALL THIS IS BEING SAID, IV SAID IT MANY TIMES BEFORE, HOW LONG DID IT TAKE ALEX F (MAN U)? 5YRS TO WIN ANYTHING. IV BEEN A SPURS FAN FOR YRS AND THIS IS THE BEST SETUP IV SEEN, HE JUST NEEDS THE BACKING FROM THE BOARD.
3:16 PM, August 21, 2007
Why would we get rid of the only person to do anything at spurs for 20 years.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/keep-martin-jol
3:16 PM, August 21, 2007
Why would we get rid of the only person to do anything at spurs for 20 years.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/keep-martin-jol
3:16 PM, August 21, 2007
My worry is that Levi is going to sell, with Paul Kemsley coming in as chairman.
3:17 PM, August 21, 2007
glastonspur....
on that basis is The big mans
martin.jol@tottenhamhotspur.com ?
I think an email of support is in order with a link to a few of the blogs around to show what support he has from the fans
3:18 PM, August 21, 2007
Ramos + Riquelme = CL
3:18 PM, August 21, 2007
"It appears that Levy doesn't want to sack him as would ....be a PR disaster"
Then what in the bleedy hell is what is going on at the moment
3:18 PM, August 21, 2007
Ok then, what time are we all meting at the Lane tomorrow?
3:18 PM, August 21, 2007
im gonna be honest,even though jol has done a good job for us he is not he man to take us forward and the board know this. they have to act now before it is too late. we have spent a hell of a lot of money and need some return and we are not going to get it with jol. Ramos will take us up a step and sometimes in life you have got to stop being mr nice guy and start being a c*** if you wanna be successful.
3:20 PM, August 21, 2007
If Jol went to Villa, would you think "oh no, they're going to be really good!"?
No, of course you wouldn't.
3:23 PM, August 21, 2007
This is all Paul Kelmsley...the decorator and painter made good.. is despearate to gain the chairmanship at THFC. The first part of the plan has been betray the best manager we have had in 20 years
3:24 PM, August 21, 2007
JOL HAS TAKEN US AS FAR AS HE CAN, NICE GUY THAT HE IS, BUT IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE.
TO SAY HE HAS DONE MORE FOR SPURS THAN LEVY IS A JOKE, AND FROM SUPPORTERS WHO DO NOT KNOW ALOT ABOUT FOOTBALL. HOPEFULLY, THE NEW GUY WILL ORGANISE THE DEFENCE AND HAVE MORE THAN PLAN A (PASS THE BALL TO ROBBO FOR HIM TO THUMP IT FORWARD). SH*T JUST REVEALED THE WHOLE OF JOL'S TACTICAL KNOWLEDGE!!
3:26 PM, August 21, 2007
Ramos has been a bloody manager for 20yrs and done nothing, just cos he's had 2 good seasons at bloody sevilla he's all of a suddent the man to take us forward!! What a load of rubbish, just adds more evidence that those asking for Jol to be replaceed by this man know nothing about football.
Jol hasn't hqad a bad season as a manager in his entire career, there's a reason Holland want him back!
3:27 PM, August 21, 2007
I think the statements such as he wont take us further are hilarious. He's had two full seasons, has been teh man responsible for making us a top team with the chance to challenge, and then before he gets the chance to take us further, people decide he wont be able to do it. That's nice eh? Some fans we have crawling around the net! A load of mugs if you ask me, seem to think themselves better than the rest of us because they are more tactically aware. Get lost, Jol has taken us so far, the team is being built to go further, the manager has the ability otherwise he wouldn't have led us to 5th during times of massive turnover of players, now his squad is finally getting to the point of being top quality, he will be able to take us further. He;s had two seasons, we cant be sacking every manager know matter what every two years because people see some greener grass. I have always stood by Jol, the players have been very much a problem for failures, not hvaing the bottle and choking at the crucial moment, and again this season already buckling under the pressure. Saying that with a full team fit and a few more of our leaders playing whose to say it would be this way...
3:28 PM, August 21, 2007
If you think that Jol is bigger than the club you are a complete knob.
You have a pop at Levy when it is ENIC that has given BMJ £106 million to spend on new talent.
I would hate to see BMJ go, but if he is merely using us as a stepping stone I would rather see him go now. He has had talks with both Ajax and Newcastle which he used to bump up his pay - fair enough, but hardly a sign of loyalty.
The club will be here long after BMJK and Levy are memories, but I see some people are on the point of severing their ties with the club.
If that is the case, good. We can do without children like Brad13. Perhaps if his IQ was as great as his age he would also be able to construct a sentence.
Levy is a brilliant chairman - jol is a good manager - but still prone to massive naivete and tactical ineptitude. He may or may not have the ability to take us further, but in this case if relations have broken down, let's all move on QUICKLY so we can settle down and watch our beloved Spurs progress.
Nobody is more disappointed than me about this situation, but a new quality manager with a proven record of winning will not be the worst thing in the world to happen.
3:28 PM, August 21, 2007
GLASTONSPUR...THANKS FOR LEVY'S EMAIL ADDRESS, I TOLD HIM THAT LOYAL SPURS FANS WILL BACK WHATEVER DECISION HE MAKES, EVEN GETTING RID OF THE OVERATED JOL.
3:29 PM, August 21, 2007
Let me tell you something about Paul Kelmsley.
He was seen in a Las Vegas club last year. In the corner of the club there was a large air conditioning outlet blowing fresh air into the club. Desperate to impress some mates and some girls, he pulled out a wad of $100 dollars bills and threw them into the air vent blowing them all over the club.
As you can see Spurs fans the club is being run by really impressive people. Money cannot buy you class.
3:31 PM, August 21, 2007
Kemsley is not on the board of directors at spurs.
3:33 PM, August 21, 2007
2 words...
Jacques Santini, you couldn't get more of a high profile manager!
And what happened? Did we win the league? Ok then, prehaps the Uefa cup, ok, qualify for the uefa cup? No, well he must have brought sucess to our club through the carling or FA cup then?
Hmm, maybe not!
3:33 PM, August 21, 2007
3:28...Keep your head buried in the sand. I wish supporters would look at the whole picture rather than their blinkered version of it. I don't mind differing opinions but take everything into account first.
And as for the supporters claiming they won't go to Spurs anymore if Jol is sacked. GOOD, don't need fair weather glory hunters, fu*k off to the chavs.
3:35 PM, August 21, 2007
3:31...Complete bullsh*t...can you make anyother stories up, or are you so gullible you believe evry lie. Tw*t.
3:36 PM, August 21, 2007
If Jol goes it is another fuck up from a club that has so many down the years. But all said and done Jol is not a great tactican and that has been found out a few to many times i.e scum, cheski and even everton this season maybe Ramos could be the man to take us on but knowing tottenham he will be gone by 2009! coys no matter what lets get behind the club in what ever action they take up the yids
3:37 PM, August 21, 2007
3:28 Levy is a great chairman eh?
Sacked Graham days before a cup semi final, sanctioned 8m purchase of Dean Richards, went 9 months without appointing a manager and then got it completely wrong. Got lucky with Arnesen employing Jol who saved his skin by taking charge once Santini (the so called right man levy waited 9 months to appoint, but lasted 2 months in the job) had left. A great chairman who wont accept the continental structure is a failure and continues with it even though it always seems the main reason for things going wrong. Also wants more and more money from us each season, exploiting the fans, whilst reducing the level of service and quality. He may have given COMMOLLI/ARNESEN 106M, but has recouped almost the same, and only spent big this summer because of huge TV money coming in, but then still wasn't able to attract any real stars, just players for the future. All the while he has been fucking lucky that Martin Jol, got the team playing well, and established as more than just the joke they were previously. I cant see what he has done that's so amazing, Jol is teh one that has got us where we are from making the team perform, Levy had very little to do with Jol coming to the club, he appointed Santini, and hasn't made one decent managerial appointment from his own decision, Jol got it through good fortune, but yeah perhaps your right, we should forget that, discard the real man responsible and give a bloke the job, bcause he really really wants a managerial spell in England, and may not be anything near what we all want.
3:41 PM, August 21, 2007
3:35 PM, August 21, 2007
glory hunting? Are you taking the piss?
I'd seriously consider not going again, I've supported spurs all my life (i'm 26) and have had to watch nothing but sh!te football and constant manager swapping and the first time we start heading in the right direction they pull this also. I'm not sure I want to be associated with a club that treats people who have worked so hard for them so poorly.
Ye, I would love to see us win stuff, but at what cost, there's precious little honour in football anymore but I genuinely thought we were a club with dignity that tried to do things the "right" way. Spurs will be tainted in my eyes if this happens.
3:41 PM, August 21, 2007
hey i love martin jol but to suggest that Daniel Levy is "two bob" after the guy agrees to all the clubs massive spending and to knock Paul kemsley because he was a knob on the apprentice is utter garbage...hey we all go to the games which gives us the entitlement to talk about football matters but these guys are hugely successful in the world of commerce so what gives us the right to tell them how to run the club??? the team is ours and so is the history but for the future id back a proven business man like Kemsley over a fairly good manager anyday of the week
3:48 PM, August 21, 2007
If all this talk is true, it's absolutely outrageous. I had full faith in the board, but sacking MJ would be an absolute disgrace. He is our best manager since Burkinshaw, ffs. I think we should protest the board and let them know exactly what we think.
3:51 PM, August 21, 2007
3:48 You'd back businessman over real football people anyday of the week would you?
Let me remind you of a former chairman who was a great businessman but just not a competent football man: SIR ALAN SUGAR. Contemplate that and see if the suits are the real reason for any clubs success, or is Sugar a bit before your time. uck off back to noddy land.
3:52 PM, August 21, 2007
3:41...Not taking the piss, you're just showing how fickle and glory hunting you are. I have been a season ticket holder for 40 years, and NO ONE is bigger than the club. Just do not need supporters like you.
3:52 PM, August 21, 2007
I just sent a few test emails... daniel.levy@tottehamhotspur.com works, but martin.jol@tottenhamhotspur.com does not...
either he has a different format for his email, doesnt have his own email, or worse, he might have been fired already....
just a though
3:53 PM, August 21, 2007
3.52 i think youll find we would be in utter shit without Sugar you prick..
3:55 PM, August 21, 2007
The problem is not BMJ's ability to deliver CLF,but the BOARDS to be realistic.The players we have came for X- amount and are happy with what they earn,but can THEY deliver? If the board doubt anything it should be the WAGECAP as THAT would surely remove any barriers to future success? Perhaps that time has arrived and BMJ told them so.
3:55 PM, August 21, 2007
3:52...Another cretin who blames Sugar. he made mistakes in appointing the wrong manager, but he spent a fortune on players and ground improvement. Its just that the managers the fans wanted, Ardiles, were sh*t.
FFS the ignorence of supporters is making this club a laughing stock.
3:55 PM, August 21, 2007
jus a quick point on your 'kemsley comment' He IS the biggest arsehole around. I worked until recently as SPorting Index (where Kemsley has an account with a deficit approaching £2,000,000)he called a few times, being rude each one...where i refused to do as he told (not asked) The guys a twat...just 'coz he has money to waste.
He gave in, in the end........
so the moral is....stand up to that fat rude money wasting bastard.
Thank you
3:56 PM, August 21, 2007
3:56...Of course mate, we all believe you!!
3:58 PM, August 21, 2007
Who gave Jol 40mil to spend ? Jol's mother ?
I say we should support the chairman Levy who had been the best thing to have happened to spurs in 20 years !
Stop being gullible.5th place for 2 seasons after 100mil pounds spend ? Some who argue that the books were balanced by selling but who did the financial management Jol.No, its our key man levy.
Stop giving Levy problems in his pursuit of glory for the club.
He is only doing what is best for the club.Under his stewardship ,we are the 15th richest club in the world and the only one in that 15 to do so without CL football.
If who ever comes and give us CL football, soon you would forget about Jol and understand the wisdom of Levy.
I have nothing against Jol.He seems a fine character.But Fergie once said that Man U is a boat that waits for no man; Liverpool shipped Owen out when he refused to sign a contract.Veira was sold when he was passed his best.
Mourinho was threaten with the sack if he don't bring the premiership back.Did those clubs cry sentimental tears ?
Don't be daft, Jol don't cut it and we don't want to loss further points before the inevitable must happen.It's sad to see u behind clubs like Man City.
3:58 PM, August 21, 2007
3:52, I think you'll find if it hadn't of been Sugar someone else would have kept the club aloat. I am grateful to him, but to suggest a businessman is what makes a football team a success over the manager shows you are the prick.
3:58 PM, August 21, 2007
People claiming to be ITK on COYS are suggesting that Jol has already gone. I hope this isn't true.
3:58 PM, August 21, 2007
Kelmsley is on the Board of directors!!!!
Trust me he is the problem
Probably wont help Levy with the finances/redevelopment of White Hart Lane unless Levy stabs Jol in the back.
Besides who was who went to Spain to meet Ramos...it was Kelmsley
3:58 PM, August 21, 2007
Jol has done well with us and the last few years have been good. But I don't think Jol is the man who can take us further. Can anyone honestly say they can see us winning the prem with Jol? whether it be in 5 or 10 years I just don't think he is strong enough tactically to mount that kind of challenge.
If anyone is thinking Jol should go just because of the defeats to Sunderland and Everton then they are wrong. Agreed you can't sack somebody just over two poor games, but it did prove that Jol is still struggling to address this frustrating tactical problem that showed up last year against the scum, reading, man u, sheff utd chelsea (fa cup) and sevilla.
I read in an interview last season in the independent that he'd like to go and manage the dutch national team or back in the Dutch eredivisie after a few years, and also that it would always be impossible to win the premiership with spurs, showing lack of ambition.
Jol has been a faithful servant over the last few years but I'm afraid he can't take us further. Never mind all this "Rome wasn't built in a day", he is just too weak tactically.
Sorry to those who are happy to under-achieve with Jol as manager for another few years but sadly it's something we've got to do.
3:59 PM, August 21, 2007
JOL FOR CHAIRMAN
3:59 PM, August 21, 2007
3.58 i never would suggest that we let a kemsley or levy anywhere near football pitch you mug im saying that the future of our club will be in the hands of money men more than the influence of one manager with a big smiley face that waves on command
4:02 PM, August 21, 2007
JOL for prime minister. Fans who want him out for Chelsea.
4:02 PM, August 21, 2007
Spot on, Paxton ! PK is a backstabber and Levy has a littlemansyndrome and Comolli is just scared about his 300 k a year. BMJ, He made us something.
4:06 PM, August 21, 2007
4:02 Remember it was the money men who discarded with Bill Nicholson and gave him no respect after he resigned by offering him a higher role in the club, letting him go to West Ham as a scout. It was the best manager before Jol who brought him back as advisor. I wonder if you even know who that is. The board are never the most important people, it takes men who truly belong and are selfless for the club, who only come along once a blue moon who have ever done anything for us and we have one now, if you would just give him the chance and longer than 2 full seasons, where in those seasons he has dragged us up the table and given us something special to look forward to, but that means nothing to you, because people like you are so easily turned and swayed. You mug.
4:09 PM, August 21, 2007
i just read that someone says jol is limited in tactical ability, which is a joke he is still a manager getting to grips with the prem hes only had two seasons i think people need to remember that the only reason we had any chance of beatng chelsea last year before a few misplaced substitutions was jols tacitcal ability in placing lennon in centre where he run riot
4:11 PM, August 21, 2007
ok mate I'm a 16 years old and iv been a spurs fan all my life, but I'm almost in disbelief about what your saying, do u not remember the game against arsenal at the emirates last season, where our team didn't even show up for one of the most important game of the season, as far as i know not once in our history have we not even shown up for this fixture. Or the Seville game (although i feel we were cheated) where jol sent out a completely wrong team and lack any confidence. The man has taken us to a certain level, but he doesn't seem to have any tactical ability what so ever. I feel that his departure was inevitable, far before the first 2 games of the season. the team has no spine and our midfield seems to seriously lack depth and is extremely weak at times, i said 2 years ago that what we needed was a player of requelmaes stature and here we are being linked with him finally. All i can say is that Jol doesnt seem to be able to make good desicions when there needed. I can think of countless occasions where he has not got the team in the right state of mind for the game, last season we conceded to many goals in the last quarter of a match and we could never kill a game off, what about the Chelsea game, 3-0 up and look what happened, we just collapsed. If there was a league for managerial tactical awareness, martin jol would be at the bottom and mourinho, wenger, Ferguson would all be near the top. Until this changes i can not see spurs competing for champions league, and that is a sad thing to say but i feel its true
4:12 PM, August 21, 2007
Jol OUT ! Ramos IN ! We need fresh approach.... jol cant address the issues we need addressing to take us forward. Jol done well but not the man to push us into top 4.... shouldve appointed new manager before start of season
4:17 PM, August 21, 2007
Before I go on, I want to tell those self righteous arse here who go on about Levy, why don't you give Jol another 40 mil to spend ? If you can do that rather than rant behind a computer, I support you as the next chairman, alright ?
How do you tell someone that don't measure up to go nicely ? To tell him to resign rather than sack him ya ? Am I the only one here who is in the real world.
Amid all these mayhem,we nearly forgotten a very telling episode surrounding Ghaly.He was complaining that we don't do too much running at psurs. Notice how far we fall off the pace when other clubs start muscing around ?
Not only Jol is a poor tactician, he is not good enough at football management.
4:18 PM, August 21, 2007
beign a spurs fan i often wonder why some fans lack the backbone to actually get behind the team and support them when things arent going our way, jol the man who lets face it for someone who people say is limited tactically has given us our best years statistically for something like 20 years but yeah no hes really poor i dunno some spurs supporters are an absolute joke isay if jol doesnt succeed this season then fine but 3 games what an absolute pile of shit
4:18 PM, August 21, 2007
none of you guys seem to understand, it isnt the two games thats the problem its everything else you dont seem to be able to see!
Martin jol has not got tactical strength and every weekend i honestly wish for him to prove me wrong but he never does. even when we got lucky last season and beat chelsea, i felt like the happyst man alive, but if i remember correctly we didnt manage to built on the victory and we lost our next game. JOL OUT!
4:19 PM, August 21, 2007
Lads seriously if theres a meeting tomorrow surely theres some form of protest outside the ground??
4:19 PM, August 21, 2007
For 3 years we have been upgrading the playing squad. Maybe now we are upgrading the manager. This is Jol's first big job. I like him and he seems extremely honest, but so what? He seems to believe that our best front two is Berba and Keane neither of whom are quick. He seems to believe that Jenas and Zakora are our best central midfield when neither can keep the ball and both are 'runners'. He would prefer to play Tainio on the right rather than Routledge. He makes bizarre substitutions costing us many points and a QF against Chelsea. He couldn't motivate the team at New Scumbury, the 0-3 being our most embarrassing game against them since the 0-5 at WHL. Our away form is poor and the Sunderland performance was shocking. The reality is that he is not good enough in the way that Liverpool knew that Houllier was not good enough and that Chelsea knew that Ranieri was not good enough. They were right and I think our board will be proved right if the get Ramos. Sentiment should not come into it. We are THFC and we should have the best manager in the business.
4:20 PM, August 21, 2007
4.12 Tayo - absolutely spot on mate.
There is no room for sentiment, thats rubbish about Jol has only had two years to get to grips with the prem. Why don't we have another three seasons of finishing fifth and losing out on things due to poor tactics before half of the fans realise that as good as a job he has done now, he will not take us further.
Jol has done well to take us this far but lets stop being so bloody sentimental. I wonder how many fans want to back to Jol when we get in somebody who knows their tactics and we are fulfilling our potential.
4:20 PM, August 21, 2007
Petition
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GET THIS TO AS MANY AS YOU CAN!
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SIGN UP AND SHOW MJ OUR SUPPORT
4:23 PM, August 21, 2007
Any1 who is stabbing Jol in the back on this message board should be ashamed, let alone what the w**kers in the boardroom are doing. Before Jol we were nothing, a laughing stock, lucky to even look like qualifying for Europe thru the league. Jol brings us two consecutive 5th place finishes and good cup runs and all of a sudden "We are THFC and we should have the best manager in the business" as mark frost said. Be serious mate. How about us showing some loyalty as well as expecting it back! Would you of accepted Judas Campbell saying "i joined arsenal coz im sol campbell and i deserve the best team in the league"???? No way. He's a c**t just like the spurs board are now for backstabbing Jol. I'd be up for any kind of protests, for once the club should think about the people who makes them possible... the fans. Disgusted dont even justify how i'll feel if BMJ goes. This team truly is HIS white & blue army...
4:28 PM, August 21, 2007
I think the way Jol is being treated is very unfair, he has taken us 5th twice... However I do doubt his tactics sometimes, he can be a little negative in his subs as he was against Chelsea in the cup last year, we were two nil up and he took off our attacking options with half an hour to go... inviting pressure from Chelsea for the rest of the game and we were always going to buckle.
4:31 PM, August 21, 2007
4:28 PM,
here here.
I think to a certain degree he's over achieved with the players avaliable. how many players did we have how could honestly have a shout of playing for the top 4 when he arrived. Robo (at the time) Ledders, keane, defoe maybe kanoute. combine that with the "squad" consisting of the talents of gardener, stalteri, atouba, ziegler etc and we missed out on CL due to food poisoning.
he's worked wonders.
4:33 PM, August 21, 2007
Ok lots of stories around but facts are we finished 5th for the last 2 seasons and in his time MJ has spent 106ml so its time to deliver big man.Can MJ out fox any of the top 4 managers -NO.If we keep the MJ we will still need to spend more money to catch up.We need a manager who is as clever as the top 4 and fact is MJ is not the man.If Ramos comes in and leeds us to a top 4 spot will any of you guys still be crying for MJ to come back i think not.Yes we are improving but hell after 106ml i would like to think so.We need a top bloke who can manage these players with there big egos and MJ can't so lets get it sorted and move on.The reason MJ is so popular is not because he has improved the club but because he is a down to earth type of guy.Ask your self do you want a top 4 team or a best of the rest who someday might just might make top 4!
4:37 PM, August 21, 2007
anon 4.28 spot on mate, im f******bitter over this what a bunch of tossers the board are, any protest planned ill be there. make it happen harry
4:40 PM, August 21, 2007
Much of this news coverage and speculation about Jol's future and relationships with Spurs personnel is coming from Mancunian sources in the run up to one of the biggest pressure games Utd have had to face in over 5 years - defeat on Saturday at home is out of the question for Utd, and this smear campaign is part of ensuring their success (the Ramos story from Spain was similarily engineered by Barca in the run up to their own pressure game, the Super Cup) - press smear campaigns (unsettling personnel at opposition clubs) are part & parcel of big clubs pre-match weaponary. Spurs, and Spurs fans should do best to ignore all such reports - no substance in any of it!
4:42 PM, August 21, 2007
Post an article specific to a protest please Harry, be good to get something organised... there seems to be more poeple back Jol (best manager for at least 20 yrs) than doubting him... oh and on Levy 'spending $40m on players.. he's gonna make £60m JUST from prem football... isn't that nice of him just to make £20m!!
4:43 PM, August 21, 2007
A lot of you are saying how you support MJ then go on to say you have doubts about some of his tactics and subs, does this not say something.MJ is a good manager and a nice guy but is he a winner like the man at manure.Sorry lads we moved on after burkinshaw and now is no different.We are close to being top 4 but we need a top 4 manager and i fear MJ is to defensive thinking to be top 4.
4:46 PM, August 21, 2007
Been a Spurs supporter all my life... not seen spurs done better than now since the start of the EPL.
MJ got us two years standing 5th on the table. Who else did that before him?
We have lost two games so far this season, So what!?... Who did we have on the pitch. I know things will be different once King/Lennon/Dawson comes back from injury.
Levy...a club needs money .....yes.
But they need fans too.
Stand by JOL people. Come On You Spurs
JT Singapore
Hopin to get in WHL to see us trash arse next month. JOL rocks
4:48 PM, August 21, 2007
You're pathetic: is it a question of hate? Jol had enough of Berba, pure and simple, and he's entlited to. Let a bit of time pass and he'll talk about it and then you'll know the fake Berba is.
4:50 PM, August 21, 2007
I think MJ has done a very good job because it is very difficult to be a Spurs manager. The fans demand the team to be entertaining and the board demands the club to buy British. If we look at the managers of the top 4 teams, who can do a better job at Spus? Wenger doesn't buy British so he is out. Mourinho is considered to be boring. Benitez is also boring and he turned half of the Liverpool team to Spanish so he doesn't fit either. So the only one who can maybe do a better job is Ferguson.
Ramos looks like a very good manager but I don't believe he out-thought MJ in the UEFA tie. Sevilla didn't outplay Spurs either. I don't believe Ramos can do a better job with the current group of players at Spurs than MJ has. I think the only way he can improve Spurs is to rebuild the team (more Spanish and South American players) and I don't think that is what the board or Comolli want.
4:51 PM, August 21, 2007
Agree - these stories emanate from the NW, where they are w/o Rooney & Ronaldo for a huge Home game they cannot lose (Fergie to be sacked by new owners?). Stories about target players or unhappy staff in the run up to Big Games are now common place - whats surprising is how stupid the media are in following them up! Perhaps they'll write a story about Utd lining up Roy Keane to take over from Fergie following the weekend's defeat?
4:51 PM, August 21, 2007
I’ve been support of the club for almost 40 years I turned 45 last Saturday and part birthday treat I went to game at weekend, the last time I attended a spurs match was 2-3 lost v Sunderland in 1976-77 seasons I said never go again unless we had chance winning 1st division ( Pre league now ) . I hope someone from the board read this I saw teams at weekend playing for manager we have are best chance in years of finishing higher than that south London club based in north London with opportunity that if push arsenal out champion league places it could financially cripple them… please, please, give him a chance, if at end or year he hasn’t improved placing or won cup etc then get someone in ..
3 games don’t make seasons
4:53 PM, August 21, 2007
JT singapore. get a grip. trying to get into WHL to see arse ?It's sold out mate.
I try on the internet ages ago.Unless you try the black market.
4:55 PM, August 21, 2007
DANMAC...i WOULD NOT BE SO CONFIDENT THAT THE MAJORITY OF FANS WANT JOL TO STAY. I WOULD SAY ITS PRETTY MUCH 50-50. JUST WISH THE JOL MUST STAY BRIGADE WOULD OPEN THEIR MINDS AND LISTEN TO THE REASONED ARGUMENTS. USE FACTS RATHER THAN OPINIONS.
5:01 PM, August 21, 2007
That's quite funny about facts rather than opinions!
OK, I won't run through all the facts
one will do
Best manager in 20yrs, club has only got better in each of his seasons in charge.. inc the 3/4 season
where's your FACTS not opinions he should go???
also, there does seem to be a lot more support for than against him... and that doesn't seem to be the people at the stasium, that actually go to games. and I personally don't know anyone who wwnats him gone, just a few computer geeks on here that don't ever make it to the Lane!
5:06 PM, August 21, 2007
4:28 PM, August 21, 2007
I think the way your looking at the situation is very negative - on paper out team should probabaly be finishing about 3rd this season but lets be honest - Jol is not getting the full potential out of the squad and the players hes got at his desposal, i would like to see taarabt start against united this weekend and o would the majority of spurs fans but lets face it, i cant see that happening because he has a bottle, he doesnt no how to change a game....oh i know apart from bringing on defoe with 15 minutes left and not giving him a fair chance. I often wonder what happend to davids i mean i remember tuff away games where he would have been exactly what we needed when we were not getting the results away from home but Jol from starting him every game when he clearly wasnt up for it, to disided to freeze him out of the squad completely whne we could of used him - so why not get a new manager who can step us up 2 the next level. why should we stall at 5th in the league when realisticly we could be competing for the league in a couple of seasons time, under the right managment
5:06 PM, August 21, 2007
5:01 PM,
your kidding right? What "facts" are there to support getting rid of Jol? the money? I'm sorry but look at ferdinand and rooney in those two players, you have 2/3rds of all the money Jol has spent.
In relative terms we haven't spent that much, look at the quality of players compared to "Big 4" now we have a team that could challenge, but last season and the season before we did as we'll as was possible with the players avaliable.
and I'd like to remind you that if the wrong players have been bought or money spent in the wrong areas, it's not because of jol it's because of commoli.
5:07 PM, August 21, 2007
4.51 So you think Jol should spend more money? I wonder what Mark Hughes, Ramos, Cappello etc would have done if they took over when Jol did and had £100m+ to spend over 3 seasons. Jol's done well but is too poor tactically to take us any further, he may be able to build a team to make us a top 4 side but whether he can get into the top 4 with it is something else. Anyone who is defending Jol tactically must be watching different games
5:10 PM, August 21, 2007
**EDITED**
4:28 PM, August 21, 2007
I think the way your looking at the situation is very negative - on paper out team should probabaly be finishing 3rd this season but lets be honest - Jol is not getting the full potential out of the squad and the players hes got at his desposal, i would like to see taarabt start against united this weekend and so would the majority of spurs fans but lets face it, i cant see that happening because he hasnt got any bottle, he doesnt no how to change a game....oh apart from bringing on defoe with 15 minutes left and not giving him a fair chance. I often wonder what happend to davids. In those tuff away games where he would have been exactly what we needed, when we were not getting the results away from home but for some reason Jol went from starting him every game when he clearly wasnt up for it, to disided to freeze him out of the squad completely when we could of used him - so why not get a new manager who can step us up 2 the next level. why should we stall at 5th in the league when realisticly we could be competing for the league in a couple of seasons time, under the right managment
5:11 PM, August 21, 2007
Jol is easy the best manager we've had in over a decade. Wasn't long ago that chelski were sounding him out
5:12 PM, August 21, 2007
There are two different issues here. One is whether or not Jol is the right man. The other is the manner in which the club appear to be going about replacing him.
Personally I am disgusted at the club's conduct and the influence that the jack the lad No. 2 on the board seems to have with his colleagues but nevertheless, unless we want to always be merely the best of the rest, Jol needs to be replaced at some point.
5:16 PM, August 21, 2007
Thank you for all you have done MJ, but your time is up.
I'm not just going on two defeats, I am going on the basis I have seen enough of MJ too see he will never win the premiership no matter how much time or money he has given.
Should we not look at this time to appoint a manager who will take us to the next level to assure we are heading in that direction?
COYS
5:17 PM, August 21, 2007
You take any back 3 out of the prem then take your most creative player out and see how many points the big four would get! Cheski last year missed Terry one def and there blame that on the reason they didnt win the league man utd missed Rio and won fuck all point is they were only missing 1 player we are missing three key defs so give him a chance
5:20 PM, August 21, 2007
Suger was are saviour Got rid of greedy c**ts like veners trying to steel from us if it wasnt for suger we would not have been such an attrative buy for levy get behind the board! JOL OUT JOL OUT JOL OUT JOL OUT fuck off redknapp bring in RAMOS
5:25 PM, August 21, 2007
Interesting comments all round and I feel the nearest was linkening Jol with Ranieri.
Both are nice guys and both made the clubs more stable, but both fluffed their lines when it came to pushing the club further. Under Jol we've set the foundations to push on. However when it comes to games that have meant something we've always come up short. West Ham (league) Arsenal (Carling Cup) Chelsea (FA Cup) and Sevilla (UEFA Cup). this year money has been spent and the newslines are full of stories of Riquelme and Taylor both of whom I'd welcome at the club and we are in a great postition. Sacking Jol know brings back memories of sacking Hoddle after 3 games (though I agreed with that as we were shit) and is maddness. Get our full squad back and then who knows? Football's about money now days and the top 4 is the Holy Grail. Fingers crossed the board see sense but the long term future of Jol isn't looking good but you never know. We need the club to keep moving forwards.........and to all those talking about cutting tyes.........I'm a season ticket holder and everyone thsat sits around me feels the same.on our day we're good, against the top 4 we miss something.........and we all want silverware.
5:25 PM, August 21, 2007
5.20 - I see your point, but what about our poor defeats last year?
I can possibly see where you're coming from that we should see what Jol can do when we have all of our new signings in and fit along with our usual lads (dawson etc) but for me he still won't achieve much more even with that.
5:25 PM, August 21, 2007
Berbatov had alot to do with us finishing 5th last year , without him i doubt we wouldve. Seen Jol to many times sit on a lead and make play defensive especially againt arsenal and chelsea last year and then lacks imagination to attack. So many times i got frustrated at watching teams being allowed to push us back in our own half. But if he is to be replaced then it shouldve been pre season .... the board brings embarrassment to the club by not nipping speculation in the bud and even more if they appoint new manager so early in season.
5:27 PM, August 21, 2007
5.20 But to sack him is a bit unfair just cos you dont think he can do how about finding out wether or not he can do by giving him 1 more year
5:29 PM, August 21, 2007
DANMAC...TALK ABOUT HEAD IN THE SAND. FACTS, POOR TEAM SELECTION, POOR TACTICS, TEAM LACKING IN MOTIVATION AND UNDERACHIEVING, £106M SPENT ON FINISHING 5TH, WOW!! IT WAS VERY NICE OF READING AND BOLTON TO THROW AWAY 15PT LEADS OVER US LAST SEASON. THE FACT IS JOL HAS SERVED HIS TIME, HE HAS TAKEN US AS FAR AS HE CAN, AND KEEP HARPING ON ABOUT FINISHING 5TH. I AM MORE INTERESTED IN THE PRESENT AND JOL IS STILL MAKING THE MISTAKES FROM LAST SEASON. DON'T TRY AND BELITTLE GENUINE SUPPORTERS BY CLAIMING THEIR COMPUTER GEEKS, I HAVE BEEN A SEASON TICKET HOLDER FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
5:30 PM, August 21, 2007
To much praise put on berbatov Season before last mido was are main man now he is out we have not replaced carrick and all you tom hud fans he is good but no way near carrick Jol should have sorted that out before buying bent
5:32 PM, August 21, 2007
Aren't we getting a bit ahead of ourselves. Nobody knows whether there is any truth to this or like I think (& hope) its all media bull. So slagging of the board is a bit premature. Show your support for Jol by signing: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/keep-martin-jol
5:34 PM, August 21, 2007
Just because I think Jol cannot take us to the next level the likes of danwa*k thinks I am a computer geek. So we cannot voice an opinion, arrogant pr*ck.
5:34 PM, August 21, 2007
Kemsely is NOT a director of THFC - he resigned in April 2006.
Here is the link to the official THFC site which tells you who the directors are.
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/investor/investor_directors.html
5:42 PM, August 21, 2007
Ian L from Chertsey says - Daniel Levy and Kemsley have lost the plot unless they think the 'potential' buyers prefer Ramos? Jol is performing marvels, even more so if has to do so with a bunch of ego orientated idiots on the board. Drop your stupidity Levy & Co and be a real leaders, Jol is the manager we want.We must have the saddest bunch of directors in the country - grow up boys before you condemn us to less than 5th place and have the fans turn on you.
5:48 PM, August 21, 2007
The fact that the board has not issue a statement to clarify the matter means there could be some truth or they simply would not commit that Jol will be with the club for long. Next few games will be a deciding factors or it could be as fast as ManU game if we performed poorly.
5:51 PM, August 21, 2007
slagging off the board a bit premature? you havin a laugh ?
5:54 PM, August 21, 2007
I LOVE MARTIN JOL! MARTIN JOL LOVES ME. Leave him be Levy you 2 bob twat!!
6:10 PM, August 21, 2007
If all the rumours prove true (Jol's dour look on Saturday despite the good performance and fans' support suggests they will), then we lose one of our top 5 managers going all the way back to Bill Nick and keep one of the worst boards ever - and we've had a few of those since Nick's day. I wonder what he would have to say about this mess. And just when we were at last beginning to go places. I honestly don't think they give a toss about what the fans (or even all the BBC pundits!) think. Of course, they know better. They know so much about the game that we fans are just a collective bunch of idiots by comparison. Unfortunately we also remain powerless as walking out would leave the players in the lurch and they deserve that as little as Martin does.
6:11 PM, August 21, 2007
Jol should be given this season to get us into the top 4, bringing a nw manager in now would be daft he would want his own players and transfer window closes in a couple of weeks. TOTTENHAM TILL I DIE
6:12 PM, August 21, 2007
I actually think Hughton is the man that should go. This guy has been the 1 consistensy through all of the sh!t. He is not a good enough number 2. I'm sure that if BMJ had a stronger number 2 with proven experience and great tactical know how, we would be much much stronger. What has Hughton ever done as a coach? Answer: NOTHING!
6:17 PM, August 21, 2007
Jol is a legend who has more than earnt a crack at taking us to the next level. He has already taken us up a few so deserves another shot. 2 games in is a skool boy knee-jerk reaction by i dick of a chairman.
We have 4th choice defenders playing due to injury so how are we supposed to get a run together, he surely cannot be judged now.
Protest at the ground is good get involved, make sure your heard at the game thou as then it can't be missed. Come on you spurs-f*ck off
LEVY
6:18 PM, August 21, 2007
I think all fans who are going to the game on Sunday should sing about Martin Jol for the whole duration they are in the stadium.
If Jol is sacked, we should spend the next few games singing nothing but "Levy out!"
Jol should be giving to the end of the season and if we do not win something then I would say after the investment and players we have then he does need to go.
But at least give him this season and not 3 bloody games.
6:22 PM, August 21, 2007
Aright now im p***ed . Look what this has done to us - we shouldnt be arguing amongst ourselves when the real issue is basically - WHAT THE F&%K IS HAPPENING TO OUR FOOTBALL CLUB . i used to think we were better than the arsescums , chelscums and manures but it seems we have all been misled - the W@nkers with power at tottenham are just as idiotic and greedy money led cnuts who have ABSOLUTELY NO HONOR. Did any of you stop to think what effect this BS is going to have on our on-pitch performances this season. If we sack Martin now we are screwed. You think Ramos is going to come in and suddenly we will win every game? Of course not, and to make matters worse he will probably bring in loads of F*****g spanish crap, sell all our english players to man utd (including lennon) and we will be in no better posistion than we were 3 years ago. Whether you want him out or not, as spurs fans we should be getting behind our team and manager and showing our support, not fueling this BS that can only work against us. Disrupting the team now will lead to us finishing mid table or worse- so stop this S**t now.
6:28 PM, August 21, 2007
The fact that this has become such a hot gossipy topic for the shitty English press just makes me so depressed.
I hope we move on and Jol get’s to stick it to them all!
I am 100% behind Martin Jol and nothing anyone has said above can change that opinion.
6:34 PM, August 21, 2007
Guys.
Let's face facts, M JOL is on his way, whether he's gone yet or not is irrelevant, it's just a matter of time. Whether the press are skum or not is also irrelevant as there's usually substance to every story.
So really it comes down to this, those who want Jol to stay let's get down to basics, if he sanctioned the sale of Berbatov would you still think he the man for the job? Did he not surrender a 2-0 lead to Arsenal and 3-1 lead to Chelsea last season by being negative, and then not being able to turn the thing round. I say this with my heart fighting me as the sentimental side of me loves Martin Jol, everything he stands for his personality and what he has done for our club, but i also am a person who looks at the bigger picture. I'm constantly annoyed that Taino seems to always get in the team when fit, pissed that jenas is always in the team, and the focal point "of everything good", pissed that we've done seldom to try and resolve our Left midfield issues, i mean we dont even seem to have got anyone to play on the left hand side when there's always many players we are linked with. I can see the boards thinking here, and it does stink of the Ranieri/ Mouriniho situation, and all i hope is that we come out of this in the champions league challenging for the title like they did.
7:02 PM, August 21, 2007
The Club is aware that there has been much speculation over the past few days in respect of our Manager, Martin Jol. As you know, the Club does not respond to speculation, but we do feel in this instance it is important to clarify the current position. Manager Martin Jol and Assistant Manager, Chris Hughton met with the Chairman, Sporting Director Damien Comolli and members of the Board today – discussions were held re-confirming our aims for the season, the development of the full potential of the squad and taking the Club forward.
“We have had two good, progressive seasons with fifth place finishes. I am an ambitious Chairman, we are an ambitious Club and we want Champions League football at White Hart Lane,” commented Chairman, Daniel Levy. “We, the Board, owe it to the Club and the supporters to constantly assess our position and performance and to ensure that we have the ability to operate and compete at that level. We have made a massive investment in the squad and as a result we have the best squad of players this Club has had for over 20 years and they are equally hungry for success and silverware. For that we need our management and coaching standards to be of the highest quality such that players can fulfil their potential and we can compete with the best. We have discussed all of these expectations with Martin and he has confirmed to me today that he feels he is equipped with a squad and a determination to take on that challenge.”
Martin added: “We had a full and frank conversation and I fully understand the ambitions of the Club – they are the same as those of the supporters. He has put a lot of hard work into this Club and with the squad of players we have assembled, it is realistic that we should look to challenge for a top four position and I have assured him and the Board that that is what I shall aim for.
“The last two seasons we have finished fifth and this season we start with an even better team. So we should be optimistic. Yes, it is pressure to deliver, but that is what we managers should expect. Hopefully all the media will relax now – all I shall be concentrating on is each and every game.”
They clearly want him out
7:21 PM, August 21, 2007
I think the bigger issue is how this BS looks to the rest of the footballing world. Who in their right mind would want to come work for the circus that is currently Tottenham? How could we attract a top man if he knows this is what happens to loyal servants of the club? This little sideshow is setting the club back ages, undoing all the stability that Jol's brought in the past 2-plus years. Same old Tottenham... one step forward, two steps back. When will we ever learn?
7:21 PM, August 21, 2007
To be honest if you want Jol out cos you thinks he's made mistakes you're just unrealistic. Firstly, being wise after the event isnt wisdom. Secondly ask the fans of any club if they think their manager has made mistakes and they will all say "yes", because football is game of opinions. The only way to judge someone objectively is to look at their recors and Jol's record stands up to any Spurs manager of the last 20 odd years very well.
Finally check out the latest from WHL....
http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/clubupdate.html
7:23 PM, August 21, 2007
It Will be sad if MJ goes but I think we need to get behind the team regardless. Do you think if we sent Mr Levy an e-mail asking him to sign a left sided midfielder we might get to see one at the lane this season????? (Just in case he isn't aware we need one!)
7:29 PM, August 21, 2007
Umm, Levy and Jol meet frequently, unsurprisingly; Spurs also hold a weekly press conference, so try not to soil yourself when the next one occurs.
Let’s be clear, Levy is behind Jol, although others are not.
As for the suggestion (by one of your ‘posters’) that there is 'no smoke without fire', as far as the press reports are concerned, I regret to tell you that this is not correct. Journalism is as much about moving the story on, ideally in a controlled direction* (some might call it manipulation) as it is about reporting events. As an ex Sports writer I can tell you that if a story sounds vaguely plausible it will most likely be written up by someone; This will, no doubt, come as no surprise to many of you.
Specifically: Martin Jol had a strong prior relationship with Frank Arnesen and does not always see eye-to-eye with Damien Comolli (a consummate business professional, preferred my some on the board), but professional disagreements are not a problem; Who gets on with everyone they work with 100% of the time? However, Comolli does currently have ‘the last call’ in respect of transfer dealings, which is a bone of contention for Jol - personally I think it's a bit rough, seeing as it's his, and not Comolli’s, "cock on the block". Levy is thinking about this situation, within the framework of the continental-style director-plus-coach structure, to which he remains fully committed.
However, two early losses have played into other’s hands. One, possibly two, board members are not fully behind Jol and they have behaved either amateurishly or deliberately (to put pressure on Jol via the press) in allowing themselves to be ‘caught’ sounding out Ramos.
*Having spoken to my colleagues in 'sport', it is apparent that as Spurs meet Manchester United this weekend, it is likely they will be able to continue to develop the story next week; Bear in mind there is little else to talk about, save the closing transfer window. i.e. they are anticipating Spurs will lose and will be able to continue to run the story. To them, a top managerial departure prior to the transfer window closing would be a ‘journalistic’ (he says laughably) coup. To Spurs fans however, a disaster in my opinion.
7:46 PM, August 21, 2007
The big man is staying, lets get behind him and the team. C O Y S.
7:47 PM, August 21, 2007
I totally agree with
4:42 PM,August 21, 2007 4:51 PM, August 21, 2007 6:28 PM, August 21, 2007 this is total madness.
After two years of steady progress and exciting football the media is full of these unsubstantiated, nasty, destructive little stories for one reason only, SPURS ARE A GENUINE THREAT to the usual top4 !
Don’t fall for this crap! and make sure the board knows that we will not accept any knee jerk reactions instigated by the media. JOL TO STAY, steady the ship and give us a great season. The alternative is , new manager, insecure players & poor performances, all the best ENGLISH players sold, another change of manager, narrow relegation escape e.t.c
The stuff of nightmares, is that what we really want?
Come,onnnnnnn,uuu,Spuuuurs
7:52 PM, August 21, 2007
Is Levy having a mid-life crisis? 3 games in and it looks like the end for the Dutch maestro! Don't forget Martin has always said he has a 4 year plan and to get into the top 4 is going to need plenty of dosh. Get a left sided midfielder and into the top 4 we go.
11:00 PM, August 21, 2007
Hopefully Ramos will come in September, else we're stuck with a lame duck manager, and then god knows what.
And that was the least convincing vote of confidence I've ever seen.
What a disaster. The board have fucked this up in traditional Spurs style.
11:23 PM, August 21, 2007
Just read this, it pretty much sayus it all:
The Club is aware that there has been much speculation over the past few days in respect of our Manager, Martin Jol. As you know, the Club does not respond to speculation, but we do feel in this instance it is important to clarify the current position. Manager Martin Jol and Assistant Manager, Chris Hughton met with the Chairman, Sporting Director Damien Comolli and members of the Board today – discussions were held re-confirming our aims for the season, the development of the full potential of the squad and taking the Club forward.
“We have had two good, progressive seasons with fifth place finishes. I am an ambitious Chairman, we are an ambitious Club and we want Champions League football at White Hart Lane,” commented Chairman, Daniel Levy. “We, the Board, owe it to the Club and the supporters to constantly assess our position and performance and to ensure that we have the ability to operate and compete at that level. We have made a massive investment in the squad and as a result we have the best squad of players this Club has had for over 20 years and they are equally hungry for success and silverware. For that we need our management and coaching standards to be of the highest quality such that players can fulfil their potential and we can compete with the best. We have discussed all of these expectations with Martin and he has confirmed to me today that he feels he is equipped with a squad and a determination to take on that challenge.”
Martin added: “We had a full and frank conversation and I fully understand the ambitions of the Club – they are the same as those of the supporters. He has put a lot of hard work into this Club and with the squad of players we have assembled, it is realistic that we should look to challenge for a top four position and I have assured him and the Board that that is what I shall aim for.
“The last two seasons we have finished fifth and this season we start with an even better team. So we should be optimistic. Yes, it is pressure to deliver, but that is what we managers should expect. Hopefully all the media will relax now – all I shall be concentrating on is each and every game.”
1:12 AM, August 22, 2007
Fairplay to the board on this one! Jol is a chancer and it amazes me how many of my fellow spurs fans have been taken in by him.Reading jim ds views last year or earlier on the topspurs website and he had it dead right about jol being a con man! a lot of you need to wake up to some trully shocking management from jol over the last 2 years. I agree he has done well to a point but at the end of the day its a fine line between winning and losing and on evidence to date jol has lost us every important game we have played with the best squad in a long time and hasnt shown that we can go one step further with him.He lacks ambition ,always plays our chances down ,is negative and unimaginitive with team selections, the top 4 managers in the league have him in there pockets, and the main prob for me with him is he doesnt seem to learn from his mistakes and unless he does that he will never improve and spurs will never move forward.We must be aiming for 4th this year, end of!5th twice (had chances to do things both seasons.....blown!)its the logical next step if you are actually ambitious and im glad levy has told jol in no uncertain terms that is the case, maybe they will all be singing from the same song book now and we can just move forward, but if jol doesnt learn, doesnt stop being negative ,doesnt cut out his fav player thing he will be gone and rightly so, be more possitive martin jol "to dare is to do" auderre est facere
park lane yid
1:40 AM, August 22, 2007
I'm up for a WHL protest/show of support for MJ...
1:53 AM, August 22, 2007
for me, when we have needed the manager to make a differance ex: in the close games or against the top sides he never really delivers with a match winning sub or enlightened tactics, usually when we are losing he just throws more strikers on and gets our keeper to boot it as far up there as poss (if robbo could score more of his wonder goals would be a good tactic!)anyone who had the misfortune of travelling to sheffield like me last season would surely back me up here!tactically do i really have to say anymore than keane at right wing! is it just me or does he really lose the plot when we have injuries and trys to make up ways of getting as many players out of position as poss,seville last season for example. then when we are winning especially away from home why does he never learn that our team must be one of the worlds worst at holding on to a lead,really playing to our strengths there martin!why did we concede from set pieces all last season and never improve? what does he do in training? we have good players that can win a lot of matches in this lge on there own practicaly, its the important games where the manager can make the differance from the sidelines up till now jol has got us in the position to do something but ultimately failed when it has mattered , Time to make the diferance ,stand and deliver!
2:05 AM, August 22, 2007
If we beat Man Utd at theire home ground on Sunday with an emphatic performance what will everyone say about Jol then? Every possibility as they have no strikers fit. Will Dawson be fit? Berbatov back? Anyone know?
8:51 AM, August 22, 2007
To the person who put Levy's email address above as daniel.levy@tottenhamhotspur.com, while i think thisd cant be true, on this basis isnt BMJ's martin.jool@tottenhamhotspur.com??? Lets send him some good thoughts...
1:42 PM, August 22, 2007
All I can say is WTF are the Toterring Board thinking. Jol in the first place? Ramos to be better than him in replacement?
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mwahahahahahah mwahahahahahhahahah
You going for a record number of managers changed in ten years then or wht? Pathetic club! Dont even know why im surprised.
11:36 AM, August 23, 2007
In all seriousness to that last comment, Jol is a good manager, I really dont understand the boards actions for your lot. Damned shame really, being an Arsenal fan its more fun to have your lot pushing us for 4th than not. Good luck to you.
11:38 AM, August 23, 2007
For anyone wanting a bit more info on Paul Kemsley follow this link
http://www.propertyweek.com/story.asp?sectioncode=38&storycode=3088809
For anyone wishing to leave a message with Mr Kemsley, thanking him for completely destabilising the club he supposedly supports and loves, telephone 0207 659 7999 or visit him at 20 Balderton Street which is just off Oxford Street
1:38 PM, August 23, 2007
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